First, I
want to touch on her explanation that it's a misconception that goths are
innately depressed. I wholeheartedly agree with this. Based on personal
experiences in the club scene, interacting with people regarding my musical interests,
and dealing with the business of this site, I have no reason to believe that
goths, as a whole, are overwhelmingly, overtly, and expressively depressed. I
do know goths who do suffer from depression, but these people are certainly not
depressed because they're goth or because they're trying to project a goth
image. These people may have been somewhat attracted to the goth subculture due
to their depression, but that relationship seems secondary to other reasons, such
as the enjoyment of art and affinity to the music and style.
Most
people who I've spoken to within the goth-industrial subculture, regardless of
faction or fine-tuned identity, have been relatively well-adjusted people who
lead happy lives and have a healthy self-esteem. The people who do have
problems are those who have problems in regard to things that have nothing to
do with the goth subculture, but from other internal or external causes. Of
course, I do not claim to be the definitive expert on all people who identify
as goth, but speaking from my own personal experience, I agree with LeahMouse
on this point.
In
regard to her next point about the religion and religiosity of people within
the goth subculture, I think that's one of those points that has been beaten
into the ground a bit over the years, especially in regard to goths in the US.
The US has become more secular of a nation over time, and from my observations,
the goth community has just as significant of a secular influence as everyone
else does. From my observations, the only people who really care about the
religion of a goth person are the people who care too much about the religion
of anyone else. It wouldn't matter if the people in question were goths, preps,
geeks, or whatever. It's not the kind of thing I would lose too much sleep
over, because there is no pleasing that group of people who likes to stick
their noses into the religious practices of others.
As for
the points about troublemaking and delinquent behavior, I think LeahMouse could
have been a little more eloquent and worded her presentation a bit better, but
I agree with the ideas she presents.
People
tend to look at the outside of a person and make immediate judgments based on
it and previous knowledge and experience. Many people have preconceived notions
of what "goth" is, and will make automatic attributions on sight. Obviously, it's
unfair to judge someone by the outside, but everyone does it. I do it. You do
it. If you say you don't do it from time to time, I'll immediately call you a
liar. The key thing is recognizing that you do it and making an attempt to dig deeper.
In regard to the goth subculture, that means that people should try to educate
themselves on what it means to be goth. I don't have wild expectations that
people are going to dedicate vast amounts of time delving into books, articles,
and videos about every part of goth subculture, but even just a little bit of
passing interest would go a long way and help to wipe away a lot of
misconceptions. There are a number of misconceptions (e.g. widespread
practicing ritual sacrifice) that would go away in a person with even the tiniest
modicum of education on the goth subculture.
As for
finding appreciation in darker beauty, I think that is part of why people who
are outside of the scene get confused in regard to what it means to be goth.
For instance, a goth person may find aesthetic pleasure in skeletons or blood,
but that doesn't mean he or she has any interest in killing anyone to make
these aesthetics come to realistic fruition. Those two things have absolutely
nothing to do with one another, but a lot of people who don’t get the
subculture can't really wrap their heads around it. Again, based on personal
experience, I have no reason to believe that goths would have any greater
propensity to perform violent acts than a non-goth, but some people tend to get
worried by the level of comfort that goths have in regard to discussing the
darker and sometimes more grotesque parts of life.
Finally,
goth is not all about dressing in black, as LeahMouse said. There isn't a whole
lot I can say about this that would not completely dominate the post, because
goth fashion is something that entire magazines and websites are devoted to
talking about. But in short, ignoring those who are not presenting as goth at
all from a fashion standpoint, even among those who are trying to present a
goth image, it's not always about dressing in all black. Depending on the type
of goth, you may not even dress in black at all. There is just such a wide
variety.
In short, watch this woman's video. She brings up some excellent points about what goth is not. If we want to set boundaries for the subculture, it's just as important to figure out what goes out as to what goes in.
In short, watch this woman's video. She brings up some excellent points about what goth is not. If we want to set boundaries for the subculture, it's just as important to figure out what goes out as to what goes in.
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